Reading Quora Opinions: “Has Feminism Made Men Afraid of Women? If So, How?” Part B

Photo Credit: Bustle- 6 Signs That Prove You’re A Feminist

Hello Everyone!

This is Part B of the discussion on men being afraid of feminism. In Part A, I shared with you all 13 opinions from both men and women on the subject matter. I also shared with you 2 definitions of feminism and 4 camps of feminism. Perhaps because of the 4 different feminism camps, that is why there is not just one source of authority to provide the core values and/or tenets of feminism? Now, my next step is to find out the “tenants of feminism” or a set of “core values” for the institution. I chose to just review various sources since I have no idea who is the “authority” on this subject matter. It appears that Melissa and I, on the surface, are technically feminists. It appears that all women are feminists actually. She will get a laugh at this! LOL! I had spoken to her earlier and I told her what I was working on. According to the women’s digital magazine Bustle, there are 6 Signs That Prove You’re A Feminist:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/119659-6-signs-that-prove-youre-a-feminist-even-if-you-think-youre-not

  1. You’re sick of stereotypes
  2. You’re angry about the media
  3. You support LGBTQ rights
  4. You’re sick of women being judged
  5. You would like to see a more fair society
  6. This (1 question) quiz tells you- you’re a feminist: Do you believe women and men should have the same political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights?

If you follow feminism according to the question posed in #6 above, everyone can be a feminist! It is not as exclusive of a club that I had initially suspected. I referenced Sage Publishing for my second source of information. Sage Publishing produces textbooks for a wide variety of subjects; one particular publication focuses on Sociology of Gender. Sage Publishing was started in 1965 by 24-year old Sara Miller who started the company on a $500 start-up budget in a one room office in Manhattan. Ms. Miller had a belief that social science research can and must play an important role in shaping society. Sage has a 2002 publication that offers six key concepts in feminist theorizing: equality, difference, choice, care, time, and experience. Ms. Miller comes from the second wave of feminism and would be considered an architect of feminism as a publisher. For my third source, The Alternative UK has an article that shares the 13 Tenets of Future Feminism. Here is the link and the list below the link:

https://www.thealternative.org.uk/dailyalternative/2017/8/14/future-feminism

THE 13 TENETS OF FUTURE FEMINISM 

  1. The subjugation of women and the earth is one in the same.

2. Future Feminism requires the participation of all people.

3. Enforce a global standard for the rights and ethical treatment of women.

4. Identify biological differences between the sexes, and draw individuals into greater accountability on the basis of their predispositions.

5. Relieve men of their roles as protectors and predators. 

6. Redefine the societal roles of women and men in response to present conditions.

7. Advocate for feminine systems in all areas of governance.

8. Build political structures using a circular model. 

9. Repattern societies to nurture the resurgence of biodiversity.

10. Feminize male-centric language. 

11. Deconstruct the mythology of male spiritual supremacy. 

12. Restore the female archetype as central to creation. 

13. The future is female. 

Based upon the signs and tenets above, it appears that varied interpretations of the feminist movement have been published. I am trying to be fair and search for multiple sources to get content. For some reason, I anticipated the movement being far more organized than what it is in reality. Now the 13 tenets sounds good in some aspects. In other aspects, the crafters of feminism are seeking the government to be involved far more than they should. It asks for people to be held accountable, for all to be participative, and relieving men from traditionally expected roles as a protector. I am not fond of the need to feminize male-centric language. Why not leave well enough alone unless it causes harm? I am in favor of people being respectful to others in reference to their biological identification. I know that not all people agree with the choices of others. They should be respectful and look the other way. People should not be penalized or charged with a crime for failing to recognize a person’s pronouns. Leave societal roles to couples and individuals to define for themselves. I am unclear what role feminine systems play in governance? Is this another way to force rules and laws on people in the name of feminism? I do not want the government up my ass any more than they already are in this day and age. I am sure others feel the same way.

I got the pleasure to read all thirteen of the responses that ran the gamut of content. The first man, named Jeremy Smith, expressed his fear of feminism in such a strong way and spoke about the different tentacles of perceived impact. I am sad that he blames feminism on his fear and/or lack of communication with a woman. Meanwhile, it is either him or his partner who lacks communication skills. It seems foolish to blame a movement as to why you cannot communicate and not the actual communicators. I am unsure why Jeremy chose to speak about being accused of being gay when that had nothing to do with the initial questions? Jeremy then makes a claim that the MGTOW members are intimidated by feminists. I would think MGTOW members just avoid contact with women all together so it is a non-issue. Jeremy then ties false rape accusations to feminists. How about tie false rape accusations to morally bankrupt women? I would think these women who falsely accuse are such a small sector of the female population. Why be so paranoid about a few bad apples? Jeremy then shifts gears and talks about the climate in family court. While the 17% percent requirement from your salary is painful, child support helps prevent a single mother and the child from being on the streets. Once homeless, the government, meaning the taxpayers, pick up that tab. If it is your seed, it is on your dime buddy. Child support hopefully deters men from carelessly spreading their seed and avoiding their obligation. As far as the whole maintaining their lifestyle with alimony, I am with you homie on that being excessive.

John Colagioia is the next guy with a whole hell of a lot on his mind and had a ton of talking points! John went in on the macho old school minded dudes who like to control women then touched on drunk chicks getting raped. I got dizzy reading some of these opinions! I never realized that in order to make one group happy, you must take from another group? There is a lot of sacrificing going on in John’s world. John is cool with a chick being his equal so he is alright with me. You then have Romeo Vasquez annoyed with the questions. Romeo then changes gears and says the feminist philosophy is hardly noticed when done efficiently? Why ya mad bruh!? He then says he is mad at the loud, angry feminist who blames all men for her problems. He then assumes that the angry feminist thinks the absolute worst of each man on the planet and wants ALL men eliminated. He is mad at the angry feminist and wants to throw hands to settle the score in lieu of discussing the issues. I am envisioning Romeo as a Randy Savage wrestler type of guy. Then we have Paul Idson who wants to punch some feminists “into next week”. He is assuming that equality means all of these women get a taste of his knuckle sandwich just like the guys do. So eloquently stated Paul! Dr. Tong is a breathe of fresh air amongst a pile of dirty jock straps! He is cool with feminism in theory and even benefits from the movement. It is safe to say that Dr. Tong rigorously avoids chicks high on the crazy scale. Bravo Dr. Tong! Bravo!

Now I appreciate Lee Johnson Stephenson where he describes himself as a feminist. However, he is setting the record straight on his lack of love for the radical combat boot wearing feminists. I agree Lee that these type of extreme chicks are bad for the entire movement! The next time I am out on the street, I am taking Simon Smith’s advice and looking for those “feminist warning lights” that are on some of the ladies! The most sensible guy in the whole group is Regul Martinez who says feminism is about women so it doesn’t concern him. I am scratching my head on “Anonymous” comment; moving on. However, you have Nun U Biznus dropping gems! Nun is telling “Kings” everywhere to evolve, step it up, and stop blaming women for their SHORTcomings and failures! This is followed up by Eivind Kjorstad, a self proclaimed feminist from Norway, who is dropping the best logic of the entire group! Eivind equates feminism with dropping expected roles and allowing people to do as they choose! Freedom is the best to enjoy under the least amount of rules. Eivind believes the gender gap narrows and people gain a better understanding between genders when the expectations are dropped. In my book, Eivind is the MVP of the discussion! That is until I read therapist and feminist Lois Muir McClain’s opinion. She sounds reasonable and contributes to society via inclusion of the man’s feelings during therapy sessions. She is open to calling out a woman if she is being destructive in the relationship. The last person to make a splash with their opinion is Jeanine Sorenson. Jeanine declares that the cavemen are afraid of feminists. However, she also declares that wealthy sugar daddies love feminists. It make sense to prefer a feminist. A feminist may not be in her sugar daddy’s pocket as much a needy, broke sugar baby. Well, let’s give thanks to Jeanine for dragging her sugar daddy into the discussion.

Overall, it felt like some of the fellas associate feminism with violence, such extreme behaviors, and extreme people. I am sure there are some feminist outliers who want to eradicate men from the planet. However, I do not believe that the majority of them think this way. I am surprised to see a guy speak on how he is going to exchange punches with a woman since she wants to be considered equal. What is wrong with people!?! You keep your hands to yourself. If you can’t express yourself in a well thought out and logical manner, just pass up the question. Some people’s insight was helpful. Some people needed to expand further on their talking points. I find it interesting when men call themselves feminists. I am amazed at how a woman just seeking the same opportunities is met with violence by some knuckle dragger. Then again, fear brings on the need for violence. What do you think about my observations? Do you have one to share that I glossed over? Let me know. It is a Friday evening and here I am writing out a long ass topic to be released. It is now time to get a little more aggressive with my Stoli raspberry and ginger ale beverage. You get a virtual prize if you made it all the way to this sentence. I wish you all a peaceful Friday evening and a great weekend!

Cheers!

Leslie M. Jasper

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